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Reblogging How to Sell Your Spouse on a Divorce Settlement
Posted by John Steele in Alimony, Discovery, Divorce, Maintenance, Modification & Enforcement, Spousal Support on November 17, 2011
Contributed by Kelly D. Thames, Attorney & Counselor at Law, kthames@steele-law.com
I read a great article today on Huffington Post Divorce from fellow Chicago Family Law attorneys addressing negotiating skills for parties to a divorce, How to Sell Your Spouse on a Divorce Settlement by J. Richard Kulerski and Kari L. Cornelison. Lawyers often take negotiation and/or mediation skills classes in law school, but spouses preparing for a divorce are often not prepared with this set of tools.
Courts in Illinois will generally refer parties to mediation if there are minor children involved, which require negotiation with your spouse. Even if there aren’t minor children involved with issues of child custody and visitation, and which are resolved in a joint parenting agreement, there are often issues of property division and other issues that comprise a marital settlement agreement. Often times, especially if parties cannot successfully negotiate in mediation, this is done through your respective attorneys. However, if you can master the following skills, you may be able to cover significant ground in mediation.
I have previously blogged about separating the emotional aspect of divorce from the legal aspect of divorce. If you have been to marital counseling before considering divorce, some of these tips might sound familiar. There are ways of addressing your spouse that makes them feel like you are listening to them and that you care about their wants and needs. If your spouse feels like you don’t care about them in the settlement, they may be less likely to come to an agreement. If you don’t come to an agreement outside court, court costs can make your divorce exponentially more expensive. Again, attorneys can handle these issues without direct contact between the parties, but this is a way of keeping costs lower in a divorce.
The insights from these attorneys, which follow some basic negotiation techniques:
- Tread softly at beginning of your talks. A non-confrontational start is vital to your overall chances of settlement. Proceed at your partner’s pace, not yours.
- Use a comforting tone of voice. This transmits sincerity and good will.
- Give your partner ample opportunity to state their case. Never interrupt them and always wait three seconds before responding.
- Allow your spouse to speak more than you do. Act as though you are there to learn, not to teach.
- Assume a listening position. Sit up straight on the edge of the chair, lean forward, and maintain eye contact. Do not cross your arms or legs and be sure your face does not register disapproval of what your partner is saying.
- Display keen interest in their concerns. Never say what you think is fair; they only care about what they think is fair.
- Show that you want to understand your spouse’s position by asking supporting questions. When they say something of great concern to them, repeat it back slowly while maintaining their point of view. Use a tone of voice that transmits genuine curiosity about where they’re coming from.
- Acknowledge their point of view as being worth consideration. They need to know that you validate their right to think as they do.
- Understand that you cannot be persuasive unless you first show that you are persuadable.
- Expect your spouse to say something to anger you and do not get angry back. If you anticipate their anger, it will not get to you. Angry people are unable to compromise; and anger never sells anyone on anything. When they blow their top, do not defend yourself and be careful of your first reaction. Deliver a non-offensive response by saying, “I see that you are upset.” This subtly acknowledges their anger without judging them for feeling the way they do.
- Flinch or wince with mild surprise when they make a major proposal. They are watching for your reaction, and a facial grimace shows you won’t accept what they are offering. This politely indicates your disapproval without starting an argument. A flinch usually softens their thinking.
- Never say no too quickly. If you want your spouse to give serious thought to what you want, you have to appear to give serious thought to what they want.
- Resist saying yes to a first offer even if you think it’s a good deal. You do not want your spouse to think they offered too much.
- Do not start at your bottom line. Inexperienced negotiators feel more comfortable doing so, but try to resist this natural temptation. It leads to deadlock, and deadlock leads to a court battle.
- Expect your spouse to say no to your first proposal and don’t carry on when you hear it. A no is rarely final and usually serves to mark the real starting point of the negotiations.
- Don’t belittle your spouse’s offer. Validate it as a possibility, explain why you disagree, and ask for their assistance in coming up with something that you both might find acceptable.
- Do not make the first concession. It will not be appreciated and can lead to expectations of further concessions.
For the entire article, follow this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/j-richard-kulerski/how-to-sell-your-spouse-o_b_1033579.html?ref=divorce
Keeping records
Posted by John Steele in Alimony, Child Custody, Child Support, Divorce, In the Courtroom, Maintenance, Modification & Enforcement, Paternity, Spousal Support on October 31, 2011
Contributed by Kelly D. Thames, Attorney & Counselor at Law, kthames@steele-law.com
I was watching the “Ron and Tammys” episode of Parks & Recreation last night, where Ron is being audited by the IRS because of his ex-wife, Tammy 1. Ron’s recordkeeping is hilariously awful: he has notes of purchase that he wrote himself; he has a picture of himself shaking hands with another guy as proof of a “gentlemen’s agreement;” he doesn’t have bank accounts or formal records and he buries gold in various places; he also has decoy gold. Although this type of recordkeeping is over-the-top silly, it made me think about clients in divorce cases.
People don’t often think about what could happen if a marriage goes sour and so they don’t keep meticulous or organized records in preparation for a divorce or child support case. When one party files for divorce and discovery starts to happen, it becomes a huge ordeal to gather financial documents that are required when one side files a notice to produce documents and a request for a financial disclosure statement. Divorces can get dragged on for years because a party is not organized in their financial life, which significantly increases the cost of the divorce.
It is probably not very likely that you will be audited by the IRS these days, in fact, Ron’s audit was fake, it was just because Tammy 1 wanted to assess his financial situation before deciding that she wanted to “take him back.” By the way, that is not a healthy relationship, but that’s an entirely different post!
The basic message here: the IRS has three years from the date you file your income tax returns to audit your return if it suspects good faith errors, six years for underreporting your gross income by 25% or more, and no time limit for fraudulent returns. Most divorce attorneys will request the same three years of documents when there are financial issues in a domestic relations case. Your attorney won’t hunt and gather those documents for you – that is your job. The Illinois State Bar Association keeps a list of standard Matrimonial Interrogatories on their website, so you can see what kinds of financial information may be requested of you during a contested family law matter.
As in many other areas of life, I like to quote the Girl Scout motto, “Be prepared.”
Pay in cash, get a receipt
Posted by John Steele in Alimony, Child Support, Maintenance, Spousal Support on October 27, 2011
I thought everyone was aware of this simple fact: if you pay in cash, get a receipt in case questions ever arise later.
It doesn’t matter what you’re paying for. Even if you’re loaning your mother $5,000 – get a receipt. If you’re paying your attorney in cash – get a receipt. And now, for the most important one: If you’re paying child support in cash – get a receipt.
Did you know that some people go to jail for not paying child support? Man, if I knew there was something I could end up in jail for not doing, I would always be sure to make make sure I have proof of doing it. Whether or not there’s a court order in place, if you’re paying child support (or any sort of support, for that matter) in cash, get a receipt.
I hear so many stories that go like this: “Well I was giving her cash for child support for the last 10 years, and now she filed this petition saying I didn’t give her anything and that I owe all this back support.” And now it’s your word against hers. C’mon, man! Did you really ever think this scenario couldn’t happen to you? Do you know how easy it is to get a receipt? Did you know that it’s FREE to get a receipt?
So, let’s see. Getting a receipt is:
- Easy
- Free
- Protects you in case questions ever arise later
I think I made my point.
Fur Coats and Child Support
Posted by John Steele in Alimony, Child Support, Divorce, In the Courtroom, Maintenance, Spousal Support on October 11, 2011
Contributed by: Bryan Keehl, Attorney & Counselor at Law, Steele Law Firm, bkeehl@steele-law.com
In court a few years ago, I was sitting quietly watching a mother stand before the judge beseeching him to increase her level of monthly maintenance. She had no attorney, but her arguments were sound. His income was up, hers was down. She had sacrificed her career to stay home with the children, and the family had lived high on the hog. Though perhaps a little dramatic, she was composed, well-spoken, and appeared sincere. She explained that her level of child support was woefully inadequate, that she was two months behind in her rent, and she didn’t have money to feed her children. Before the ruling was made, I felt fairly confident the judge would not give her what she was seeking. Sure enough, the judge denied her motion without much of an explanation.
The problem?
To begin, she strolled into the courtroom in a full-length fur coat. I watched the judge eye her as she walked in and, with a small flourish, slide the coat off her shoulders and place it irreverently on one of the attorney tables. As she spoke during the hearing, her speech lilted with a slightly patronizing tone, and, as she put on her case, her word choice smacked more of entitlement and expectation than explanation and deference. In short, she was blatantly unaware that she was appearing less like a loving mother trying to provide for her children and more of a trophy housewife with an attitude. She may have been telling the truth, but the way she told it gave the judge doubts about her credibility.
The situation illustrates not only how common sense is often lost on litigants, but also stresses just one of the many ways an attorney is useful to a client. Beyond the legal expertise that a client obviously expects, many clients do not think about what is perhaps a lawyer’s most important job: framing the case (and the client) in a favorable way before the judge. In a close and contentious case where the truth is difficult to pin down, quite often the biggest asset a party has is the one which a good lawyer always provides: a sense of credibility before the judge.
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